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Pyro_51170000 2022-04-28 01:06:08
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  • Pyro_51170000
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    I have a really good ability with VDL, for some reason I am having a heck of a time with 2 cakes.

     

    1) Winda Lace Impulse — especially with the lace part, maybe time rain without the sound? how does that look in the input?

     

    2) Dominator Touch of Gold, for whatever reason this one has 3 rows comets then 1 row of 3 palms, the 4 rows of comets the another row of palms then repeat that second part to finish. Everytime I do (a) + (b) etc… in VDL I can’t seem to get it right.

     

    Any help appreciated.

     

    Thanks

    Eric

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    2022-04-28 05:50:00
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    Hi Eric,

     

    is it possible for you to post some video links of the cakes here  ? That would help others because these brands are not available in europe and so these people don’t know the effect and are not able to help you !

     

    Dirk

    Pyro_51170000
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    2022-04-28 08:41:43
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    Here are the links.

     


     


     

    Many thanks!

    DrewFinale
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    2022-04-29 00:15:48
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    Hi Eric,

     

    Here’s a video that demonstrates how to create ‘Touch of Gold’:


     

    Here’s the full description for the cake. All you need to do is copy the text below, then do Ctrl+G in Finale 3D to bring up the create effect dialog, then put the cursor in the input description field and press Ctrl+V to paste.

     

    20mm 119 Shot Cake (a) 30.0 HTM Gold Glittering Comet + (b) 35.0 HTM 1.5 DUR Very Big Gold Glittering Willow, 1 Row (30a56/23a/17a/10a/3a/-3a55/-10a/-17a/-23a/-30a2188/a56/-23a/-17a/-10a/-3a/3a55/10a/17a/23a/30a2406/a56/23a/17a/10a/3a/-3a55/-10a/-17a/-23a/-30a2042/-25b0/0b/25b3594/30a56/23a/17a/10a/3a/-3a55/-10a/-17a/-23a/-30a2529/a56/-23a/-17a/-10a/-3a/3a55/10a/17a/23a/30a2520/a56/23a/17a/10a/3a/-3a55/-10a/-17a/-23a/-30a2911/a56/-23a/-17a/-10a/-3a/3a55/10a/17a/23a/30a2669/-25b0/0b/25b3607/-30a56/-23a/-17a/-10a/-3a/3a55/10a/17a/23a/30a2520/a56/23a/17a/10a/3a/-3a55/-10a/-17a/-23a/-30a2270/a56/-23a/-17a/-10a/-3a/3a55/10a/17a/23a/30a2361/a56/23a/17a/10a/3a/-3a55/-10a/-17a/-23a/-30a1768/-25b0/0b/25b/CAK)

    DrewFinale
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    We’re still in the process of adding new terms like “Lace” to VDL, so in the meantime I created this effect using the effect editor. The full cake description is below. All you need to do is copy the text, then do Ctrl+G in Finale 3D to bring up the create effect dialog, then put the cursor in the input description field and press Ctrl+V to paste.

     

    30mm 25 Shot Cake 40 Degrees (a) 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    DrewFinale
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    Here’s a quick video that demonstrates how to use a shared input description to re-create an effect in Finale 3D.


    Pyro_51170000
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    Worked like a champ! Thank you Drew!

    Kristine Ernzen
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    Hey there,

    We have a cake that I need help with in regards to VDL. The cake is Sky Treats.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbeKJA-jFl4

     

    I cannot figure out what that white/silver “horsetail/bouquet” like effect is that happens after the mine.

     

    Thanks!

    Kristine

    DrewFinale
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    Hi Kristine Ernzen, the “sky mine” effect, where the burst pattern of the stars is in a tight cluster (as opposed to a sphere) isn’t really possible in VDL yet, but it’s on our short list of effects to add as soon as possible. In the meantime, the best approximation in VDL is probably a half and half effect like:

     

    25mm Very Dense Bright Red Strobing Peony Top Half w/ Very Dense Gold Palm Bottom Half

     

    I used the adjustment terms “Very Dense” and “Bright” because the effect looked crappy without them. You can learn more about VDL adjustment terms here: https://finale3d.com/vdl_documentation/vdl-effect-adjustment-terms/

    Kristine Ernzen
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    2022-05-16 21:53:25
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    Thanks Drew!

    This will work!

    Pyro_51170000
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    Last one I need for the year. Once again it is that lace input combined with multiple row speed and angle changes. The more of these I see you create the better I am getting but this one stumped me.

     

    Thanks

     


    Pyro_51170000
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    2022-06-12 13:49:56
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    Anyone able to help? If not I will just make a generic setup. As always I appreciate all the help!

    DrewFinale
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    Hi Pyro_51170000, as an experiment, I made this cake without using the custom effect editor. Since we don’t have a VDL term for lace (yet), I used “Dark to Bright Red Flashing”. Here’s the complete input description the RA530174 Magic Light:

     

    25mm 26 Shot 47.2s Cake (a) Aerial 45.0 HTM Dark To Very Bright Red Flashing w/ Pink & Lemon & Aqua Dahlia Pistil + (b) 45.0 HTM Bright Red & Blue Peony w/ Dense Dark To Very Bright Very Bright White Strobing + (c) 45.0 HTM 1.4 DUR Dense Gold Willow w/ Dark To Very Bright Red Strobing + (d) 45.0 HTM 1.4 DUR Dense Gold Willow w/ Dark To Very Bright Yellow Strobing + (e) Aerial 45.0 HTM Dense Green & Yellow Strobing w/ Pink & Lemon & Aqua Dahlia Pistil, 1 Row (0a2700/a/a/a/a3800/-15b0/0b/15b4300/0c2700/d/c/d/c3800/-15b0/0b/15b4300/0e800/e/e/e/e4200/c0/c/c/c/c/CAK)

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