Clarifying how Finale uses “types/category” in My Effects?
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EhrlichFireJoined: Feb 2020 Posts: 28 Location: Wellington, Colorado, United States
NewcomerI am working on reducing the number of duplicate items in My Effects. I am seeing 3 columns for classifng the effect:
Category
Type
Sub-type
Many of the effects have the same text in all 3 columns (i.e. cake, shell, comet)
But there are also many that have the same text for Category and Type (cake) and the subtype is listed as an effect description (i.e. Peony, wave, willow, etc.) in lciuding “other”
How does Finale use these 3 classifications for sorting, VDL and presentation in the Design window?
Should the subtype use generic text like “cake”, or should it be more descriptive of the effect?
Thanks
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NECJoined: Apr 2019 Posts: 68 Location: San Antonio, Texas, United States
NewcomerCategory and Sub-type are user definable. I use Category to further define cakes ex:500G/350G/200G and sub-type in some scenarios to help with more refined filtering. type is the only one that absolutely matters –> https://finale3d.com/documentation/why-is-type-so-important-what-depends-on-it-type/
EhrlichFireJoined: Feb 2020 Posts: 28 Location: Wellington, Colorado, United States
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NECJoined: Apr 2019 Posts: 68 Location: San Antonio, Texas, United States
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DrewFinaleJoined: Dec 2019 Posts: 720 Location: United States
SilverThanks NEC, Does Finale use the Sub-Type and/or Category type to determine the effect VDL? If I edit the sub-type to Willow from comet, will that effect the vdl?
An easy reference for the complete set of fields/columns that are used to generate the simulations can be found in the create/edit effect dialog, as circled in the screenshot below. These are the only fields/columns that impact the simulations.
EhrlichFireJoined: Feb 2020 Posts: 28 Location: Wellington, Colorado, United States
NewcomerOK Thanks. I see the 2nd row of “Optional Inputs” (size, prefire, duration …) edit the Outputs. It does not matter what the “required inputs” provide. And the “effect type” edits the “Outputs” if you do not use “cake” in the “required inputs”.
I exported my effects and am working to clean them up. I guess if I change the effect type or other columns from this form, will they change in the my effects screen and simulation if needed.
DrewFinaleJoined: Dec 2019 Posts: 720 Location: United States
SilverOK Thanks. I see the 2nd row of “Optional Inputs” (size, prefire, duration …) edit the Outputs. It does not matter what the “required inputs” provide. And the “effect type” edits the “Outputs” if you do not use “cake” in the “required inputs”.
The “Optional inputs” section could better be described as “Alternative way to enter required inputs plus additional optional information”. For example, Size is not optional, but it’s included in the optional section because it can entered in the full VDL description at the top. Everything you see in the Outputs section is required, anything not in the Outputs section is optional.
I exported my effects and am working to clean them up. I guess if I change the effect type or other columns from this form, will they change in the my effects screen and simulation if needed.
There are many ways to edit your My Effects data. You can edit using the Edit effect dialog, you can edit directly in the table in the effects window, and you can export or copy data for editing in Excel.
EhrlichFireJoined: Feb 2020 Posts: 28 Location: Wellington, Colorado, United States
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