Hi Rovira, the "Sun" effects in your show appear to have a very short duration on the timeline because they are in a Group. If you select the effects, then use the Script menu (or press Shift+G) to ungroup them, you will see the full duration bars appear. Other effects don't behave the same way when Grouped so I need to look into this effect more, but preliminarily it seems like a bug. Fortunately the only issue is the appearance of the durations bars on the timeline, it's not affecting your show in any other way as far as I can tell.   Edit: found the issue, this effect had no 'Duration' in the Effects window. I just updated the effect duration in the catalog. To get the updated catalog, do a network sync. Then, to update the effect in your show, go to the Effects (menu) > Update Per-show effects...

I would like to take a quick moment to thank everyone who has expressed interest in participating in our competition and being patient with us as we navigate our way through this.  With this being our first effort doing something like this, there undoubtedly have been a few "bumps in the road" so to speak as far as clarifying rules, limites, etc.  Extra thanks to Drew and the rest of the Finale team for working with us on this project.  We are super excited about the potential for this overall.   Since we are entering the "home stretch" as they say, if anyone has any questions which require the quickest response possible, please post them here (so everyone can get the benefit of the answers) but if you feel the response isn't fast enough feel free to email them to me directly at timj@ipcdisplays.com since I will see them quicker as I am constantly checking my computer or phone throughout the day.   If someone happens to forget to post here first, I will come back and post their questions as well as any responses so all can see and benefit.   Again, thanks to all who have expressed an interest in our competition, cannot wait to see the entries :-)

  Anıl Hepyücel – İzmir Havai Fişek wrote: hello everybody. Can we use pyro letters in the competition? If so, any rules about that?   If you are referring to letters fired using mines shot from mine racks, the answer would be no as we do not have enough racks to do more than a few.  If you are referring to using comet sequences to create the letters then yes this would be acceptable.  Thank you for your interest in the competition.   Edit:  To further clarify my answer, the "mine racks" I am referring to similar to these.  

hello everybody. Can we use pyro letters in the competition? If so, any rules about that?

Hi Rovira, okay, your build isn't the issue. I'd like to investigate further, can you email me your .fin file? If you don't want to send your competition show, that's completely understandable. Just save a copy of your show, then delete the music and everything on the timeline except the sun effect. Even then, the file will still probably be too large to be sent as an email attachment so you can just use wetransfer.com. As soon as I get the file I'll take a look!

  This is what I have:   "Finale 3D build ID" : 2021.11.17-64adbec3c

Hi Rovira, this is very strange. Can you go to Help > About Finale 3D... and tell me what "Finale 3D build ID" you are running?

This is how short my effect is shown, much less than a second. On the render screen the effect appears for 50 secons anyway.    

Hi Rovira, if you want to use the Sun effect, you can create some additional positions that are slightly elevated. As for the duration of the sun effect, I just added PFS050 "Set Piece - 50 Sec Gold Sun w/ Blue" to the timeline and I can't reproduce the issue you mentioned. See screenshot below.  

  DrewFinale wrote: Hi Dirk Enders – PyroOffice, jumping in for Tim here. Slightly elevated firing positions can be used for effects that require it. For example, the “Sun” effect requires a slightly elevated firing position, as shown in the screenshot below. However, elevated firing positions should not be used for other types of effects that can be fired from the ground. For example, elevated firing positions should not be used for comets, mines, strobes, gerbs, flares, etc.       Then if I want to use a "Sun" effect should I create another line of multiple positions close to the original  "close-prox" group and then elevate them or should I elevate the 19  ground firing positions given?   About the "Sun effect": it looks like its a 50 sec effect but it  appears on the timeline, when placed, as a very shot effect, less than 1 sec. the line of the effect is super short, not 50 sec.