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DrewFinale 2025-01-07 20:13:17
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  • PYROCREA
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    2025-02-05 20:47:10
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    Ok noted. I will do that tomorrow. Thanks.

    JBlay312
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    2025-02-06 11:19:34
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    Tim,

     

    When judging the submissions is the “trajectory drift randomness” selected or deselected?  If you wouldn’t mind I’d love to see a screen shot of the render settings your judges will be using (if that’s standardized).

     

    Thanks!

    DrewFinale
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    2025-02-06 12:56:16
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    JBlay312 wrote:

    Tim, When judging the submissions is the “trajectory drift randomness” selected or deselected? If you wouldn’t mind I’d love to see a screen shot of the render settings your judges will be using (if that’s standardized). Thanks!

     

    Yes, for added realism, the ‘trajectory drift randomness’ and all other randomness settings will be enabled for judging. These settings will also be enabled when videos of the top three shows are rendered. Finale 3D render settings are show specific, which means they are saved in each show file. To see the PyroJam render settings configuration, simply download the Show Design Template and go to File > Render settings.

    DrewFinale
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    2025-02-07 15:05:33
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    PYROCREA wrote:

    I’ve a question about the music frame, my wav file is 9:17 for time but when I’m in the final 3D, I see that there is a lot of blank until 9:59 min and when I open my .FIN file all the time the cursor on music part begin at 0:05 by default (my show need to be start at 00:00 because first comets begin at 00:02). is it a bug? is it a problem for judge? thanks, Nicolas FERET (PYROCREA)

     

    Hi PYROCREA, everything in your show is completely normal and working properly.

     

    — When a show is opened in Finale 3D, the play head on the timeline is always placed at 00:05.000, which is perfectly normal. To move the play head to the beginning of the timeline, simply click the yellow rewind button.

     

    — The PyroJam show design template is pre-configured with a show duration of 10 minutes, adding a soundtrack that is less than 10 minutes does not automatically adjust the length of the timeline. There is nothing wrong with the timeline being longer than your soundtrack. However, if you would like to shorten your timeline, you can go to Show > Set show duration.

    DrewFinale
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    2025-02-07 15:23:31
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    To all competitors:

     

    We discovered an issue with the break heights for the various calibers of the Red Strobe Willow shells. The heights have been corrected in the PyroJam catalog.

     

    You can refresh the PyroJam catalog by going to File > Sync with network

     

    If your show already contains Red Strobe Willow shells, refresh the catalog and then refresh your show following these steps:

    1) Make sure the PyroJam catalog is open in the effects window
    2) Go to Effects > Update Per-show effects > Current

    Jake
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    2025-02-07 16:22:06
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    Hi! I have questions regarding to some effects from the catalog.

     

    1. Is PSS93 (Blue Tiger Tail w/ Red Strobe Mine) sub type correct? it looks like a comet w/ mine to me, currently it is listed on the ss mine subtype.

    2. Seems like JY4-0123 (Brocade Crown to Lemon) simulation is incorrect? current simulation looks like a brocade crown to multicolor.

    Thanks

    Tim Jameson
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    2025-02-07 16:58:16
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    Jake wrote:

    Hi! I have questions regarding to some effects from the catalog. 1. Is PSS93 (Blue Tiger Tail w/ Red Strobe Mine) sub type correct? it looks like a comet w/ mine to me, currently it is listed on the ss mine subtype. 2. Seems like JY4-0123 (Brocade Crown to Lemon) simulation is incorrect? current simulation looks like a brocade crown to multicolor. Thanks

    Hi Jake, I’ll check these when I get back to the office today.  On the road at the moment.  Thanks for your patience.

    Tim Jameson
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    2025-02-07 21:56:01
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    Jake wrote:

    Hi! I have questions regarding to some effects from the catalog.
    1. Is PSS93 (Blue Tiger Tail w/ Red Strobe Mine) sub type correct? it looks like a comet w/ mine to me, currently it is listed on the ss mine subtype.
    2. Seems like JY4-0123 (Brocade Crown to Lemon) simulation is incorrect? current simulation looks like a brocade crown to multicolor. Thanks

     
    Hi Jake, sorry for the delay, but I looked into these and you are correct.  These have been updated (subtype for the PSS93 and simulation for JY4-0123) and should show correctly once you sync with the network.

    Jake
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    2025-02-08 08:04:13
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    Hi Tim, Thanks for the fix and update, changes are now reflected.

    StarryNight
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    2025-02-08 12:11:07
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    Hi, could you please check the following effect simulations?

    NO-5-RSW seems to be brighter than NO-3-RSW, NO-4-RSW and NO-6-RSW. Is this intentional?

    JY6-0373 seems to be missing the strobing pistil in the simulation.

    NO-SS-25-15: No red visible in the simulation.

    NO-SS-25-17: No green visible in the simulation.

    NO-SS-30-38: No red visible in the simulation.

    Thank You

    Tim Jameson
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    2025-02-08 13:42:45
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    StarryNight wrote:

    Hi, could you please check the following effect simulations? NO-5-RSW seems to be brighter than NO-3-RSW, NO-4-RSW and NO-6-RSW. Is this intentional? JY6-0373 seems to be missing the strobing pistil in the simulation. NO-SS-25-15: No red visible in the simulation. NO-SS-25-17: No green visible in the simulation. NO-SS-30-38: No red visible in the simulation. Thank You

    Thanks for pointing these out.  The RSW shells have been fixed to match the NO-5-RSW effect which was the correct sim.

    The comets you mentioned have been fixed as well.

    JY6-0373 doesn’t have a strobing pistil despite what China was supposed to build haha.  I have corrected the description.

    Pyro_73400000
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    2025-02-11 11:36:00
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    Hi Tim, hi Drew,

     

    I’ve got a few questions concerning the heights of some products:

     

    Cake-Slices:

    – PFX13FR-30-2 and SE170 (although its 30mm it seems to be very low)

    – PFX15FR-R and PFX15FR-V (same issue here)

    – TB439 (I am not sure if it explodes that low)

     

    Single Shots:

    – RA141013 and PFX30CM-CH (same issue about the height here)

     

    And then two last question about the gold strobing willows. There are three shells (3, 4 and 5 inch) but I think the correct effect should be the JY3-0211-GSW.

    The JY4-0217 and JY5-0378-GSW they look more like Ti-willows. Is that correct?

    Is it correct, that the JY6-0273 is more a silver crown than a glittering willow?

     

    Sorry for the long list, Perfectionism takes over 😀

     

    Thank you in advance!

     

    Tim Jameson
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    2025-02-11 20:04:50
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    Pyro_73400000 wrote:

    Hi Tim, hi Drew, I’ve got a few questions concerning the heights of some products: Cake-Slices: – PFX13FR-30-2 and SE170 (although its 30mm it seems to be very low) – PFX15FR-R and PFX15FR-V (same issue here) – TB439 (I am not sure if it explodes that low) Single Shots: – RA141013 and PFX30CM-CH (same issue about the height here) And then two last question about the gold strobing willows. There are three shells (3, 4 and 5 inch) but I think the correct effect should be the JY3-0211-GSW. The JY4-0217 and JY5-0378-GSW they look more like Ti-willows. Is that correct? Is it correct, that the JY6-0273 is more a silver crown than a glittering willow? Sorry for the long list, Perfectionism takes over 😀 Thank you in advance!

    No problem, I appreciate the help.  I have updated the catalog, but will answer the questions here so you know what to expect:

    1) The PFX13FR-30-2, SE170, PFX15FR-R, PFX15FR-V, TB439 heights have been adjusted to be more realistic to performance.

    2) The PFX30CM-CH and RA141013 slightly underperform expectations so their sims are accurate for their heights.

    3)  The JY6-0273, you are correct, looked more like a Silver Crown than a Silver Glittering Willow and that has been corrected.

    4)  The sims for JY4-0217 and JY5-0378-GSW have been corrected.

    If you sync with the network the changes will be reflected.

    Pyro_73400000
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    2025-02-11 20:53:39
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    Thank you Tim! I’ve synced with the network but I think something went wrong in some places:

    1) PFX15FR-R, PFX15FR-V –> the duration of the cake slices are 14 seconds

    2) JY4-0217 –> is listed now under 3 inch but it should be 4 inch I guess? And the shell explodes 1-2 seconds after the cue in the timeline

    3) JY5-0378-GSW –> the effect is still a Ti-Willow and not the same as 3 and 4 inch

    Thank you very much 🙂

    Tim Jameson
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    2025-02-11 21:14:17
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    Pyro_73400000 wrote:

    Thank you Tim! I’ve synced with the network but I think something went wrong in some places: 1) PFX15FR-R, PFX15FR-V –> the duration of the cake slices are 14 seconds 2) JY4-0217 –> is listed now under 3 inch but it should be 4 inch I guess? And the shell explodes 1-2 seconds after the cue in the timeline 3) JY5-0378-GSW –> the effect is still a Ti-Willow and not the same as 3 and 4 inch Thank you very much 🙂

    Oops, that was weird, but check them now.

    LilyPyro
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    2025-02-14 18:28:39
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    Hi ! I wanted to use the 360° towers, but I have a question about angle restrictions: I put an effect every 0.1 seconds to obtain a rotating effect. As a result, I don’t really have a complete revolution every time, but it’s close. So I wanted to know if it still worked for the restrictions or not ?

    Thanks !

    Tim Jameson
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    2025-02-15 00:16:20
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    LilyPyro wrote:

    Hi ! I wanted to use the 360° towers, but I have a question about angle restrictions: I put an effect every 0.1 seconds to obtain a rotating effect. As a result, I don’t really have a complete revolution every time, but it’s close. So I wanted to know if it still worked for the restrictions or not ? Thanks !

    Hi LilyPyro, I want to make sure I’m understanding your question correctly.  First, you said “360* towers”, so let’s make sure we are both talking about the same positions.  The “Tower” Positions (T-1…and T-2…) are limited to angles from -70* to 70*, but the “Wheel Position (WH) allows you to place items in a circular pattern 360 degrees around the position.  Make sure you are only trying to create the rotating effect on the “Wheel” position in the center.

    Keep in mind you may only use one or the other (either the two “Tower” positions or the single “Wheel” Position)

     

    Hopefully his helps answer your question, but if not, please let me know specifically what problem you are having placing the devices as you would like to use them from the “WH” position.

    LilyPyro
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    2025-02-15 11:36:44
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    Hi !

    Sorry !

    Indeed, I spoke about the wheel and not about the towers ! Thanks for your answer.

    Leon_Sutliffe
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    2025-02-16 16:06:05
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    Hi,

    I might’ve missed some of these, but i thought id just check.

     

    1. Can cakes / Cake-Slices be angled or are they limited to vertical only?

    2. what happens if rules are accidentally broken in small quantities? I.E. if one or two effects got mis placed on a prox position rather than a front? is that effect deleted and the show judged without, a points reduction, disqualification?

    3.Is there an easy what to see what effects are used in a set of positions? useful for checking that ive only used the correct effect types in the correct place.

    4. is there a way to see all the effects used in the show, with the quantities used and the available amount, so I can double check Ive not gone over anywhere.

    5. How precise for angles can SS positions be? of course fans can be Simulated with less than single degree accuracy, but that’s not practical in the real world to set up, is there any recommended guidance, I.E. 5 degree divisions?

    PACT
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    2025-02-16 16:20:46
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    Hi Drew, I’ve been reading the forum, but I don’t know where I’m making a mistake? In the subtly,,, it only shows me fuel mine as I’m sending you. And I’ve also done the steps you recommended to others. I downloaded Pyrojam cagatalog again.? Thanks for the help.

     

     

    Etc.,  I done this.

     

    Thank you.

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